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For those of you who haven't heard:

http://gallifreyone.com/news.php#new...FZlpklElgDHHnl

RTD is being very coy about whether she might be killed off, which figures.
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Rats. This has been rumoured for a long time now, but I'm sorry to see it confirmed.
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Hmmmm.

I think it was pretty much going that way anyhow, so I'm not terribly surprised. And oddly I'm not really bothered by it either, not like when CE left - I suppose companions come and go much more readily, so it's not so much a big deal.
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To be honest, I was kinda happy when CE left. I don't know what it was...I just couldn't like him. Maybe it was because I'd seen him in other things? To me Tennant (while a little young) Feels more like the Doctor.
And with Piper leaving...? I'm a little more sad than I thought I would be. At the start she was kinda annoying, but I've really grown to her. I love People in TV shows who are thrown into 'new' situations and slow adapt - I.e Fry in Futurama, the group in Lost, Hoshi, etc. Rose has really changed since 'The end of the world'. Back then she almost had a panic attack, yet by 'The Satan Pit', she's taking charge, coming up with ideas, even beating the bad guy! Guess it has to move on, though. Wonder who will be next? Guy/Girl? Human/Alien?
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I think it's very sad that this is happening, and a lot of people on Outpost Gallifrey are being very unfair about it all Because Eccleston was my introduction to Who, I was gutted when he left...and now Billie's going too! Still, they're looking for a replacement and companions have to change or they get boring I just pray the new one isn't called "Adric II" ... o_o;;

Tonight's episode is also cause for concern....apparently it features 10 minutes of the Doctor and Rose. In a 45 minute episode. "Oh my giddy aunt! Oh crumbs." as my favourite Doctor says

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At least it'll kill off this ridiculous pseudo-relationship.

I did think it was a pity, until I saw tonight's ep., when she reverted to Dumb Chavette Mode.
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It was a particularly RTD-esque effort (perhaps as it was indeed written by him), so whilst the jokes were good, the drama wasn't so much.

Were I a less lenient man I would sentence him to Death by Fart Jokes.
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At least it'll kill off this ridiculous pseudo-relationship.

I did think it was a pity, until I saw tonight's ep., when she reverted to Dumb Chavette Mode.
Given that she had nothing to do this ep, it's hard to really judge her. I'd say something about the braided hair, but that's nothing compared to the hideous denim thing she was wearing in "Tooth and Claw."

Still I laughed a lot at this weeks ep, just from the sheer lunacy. I could wish that Elton hadn't suggested he was having the sort of "relationship" he was having at the end of the ep (to put it delicately without spoilers), but I liked a lot of it -- especially Jackie and the way she anticipated all of Elton's infiltration maneuvers, then got tough when she needed to.
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Oh, quite. But nonetheless, her dialogue, and the episode as a whole in fact, made me want to wretch and pluck out my eyes and liver simultaneously.
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Oh, quite. But nonetheless, her dialogue, and the episode as a whole in fact, made me want to wretch and pluck out my eyes and liver simultaneously.
Actually that was one of my reactions to the show as I was watching it -- CV is going to hate this one! It certainly represents everything about the new series that people who hate the new series hate about it. And so -- not surprising at all it's an RTD script.

One thing I cringed at is Elton's reference to the sonic screwdriver as a "magic wand", which only points out the fact that for RTD that's precisely what it is -- it can literally do anything. I mean, what setting on the s.s. does what he does with it at the end of the ep? In the classic series it just unlocked doors, and even that was so deus ex machina that Christopher S. Bidmead deliberately destroyed the thing to help reintroduce drama and suspense to the series. And it's true -- how can you have suspense if you've got a magic wand than can get you out of any scrape imaginable? RTD does not get that. That's the thing I liked least about "Christmas Invasion" -- how does a s.s. evaporate an attacking Christmas Tree? Short-circuit, yes. It should have plopped to the ground dead. But evaporate?
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I didn't mind it too much. It was a little silly, and different, and maybe it didn't quite work this time, but look at Buffy. They did two 'Weird' epiosdes(Hush, Once more with feeling), taking a chance, it paid off. Doctor Who took a chance...and ok, maybe it wasn't quite what they hoped, but nobody can say they aren't trying different things!
One pity for me was (Kinda my own fault) I read that Jackie was to travel in the TARDIS this time. I would have like to seen that. I enjoy new people, not used to space travel, seeing these things.
Having people come in to the TARDIS, a strange tiny box, that turns out to be HUGE on the inside with endless corridors and rooms packed in it, and can travel to any time/place in the known Universe and show you wonders you never before imagined, well after a while it gets annoying when they just toss out "Oh one of those old TYPE 40's? They still around?"


Just read the post before me, and wanted to add. The Sonic Screwdriver - it's starting to grate on me too. I understand it can pick most locks. I understand sometimes it can be...'Jury-Rigged' to do extra things. But now it seems every episode it's killing baddies, blowing up stuff....... In short, I love the S.S - Please can they stop killing it!
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Scooter: Quite. But it only highlights the talantless heap of molasses that RNT is, absorbing other people's ideas and spewing faeces like this afterwards, IMO.
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Much as it pains me to say this, I think it would be best if RTD kept away from the scripts from now on. Sure, there are always really good moments, but there's no-one to jump up and down on the stupider stuff that inevitably acompanies it.
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the talantless heap of molasses that RNT is.
Russell Nathan-Turner? Is that a coinage that's out there, or a very interesting typo?

Either way it's apt. There are parallels...
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I think it was a Fruedian slip, myself.
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Russell Nathan-Turner? Is that a coinage that's out there, or a very interesting typo?

Either way it's apt. There are parallels...
Nope, it was intentional.

I recently rewatched "Revelation of the Daleks", and the single-entendres brought me inevitably toward the gurning visage of Eccleston...
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