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[Xeroc]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Again, no. If anyone's going to clean up my code, it'll be me. I've learned some CSS and I'm going to learn more, but until then, I feel absolutely no guilt whatsoever for using "deprecated" tags like and [b]. They get the job done perfectly well.

And you shouldn't feel any guilt!


My motto, is go with what works, works best, and doesn't take more time than it needs to.


Therefore, I use 's for some things 's for other, <... class="...">'s for other things, and stylesheets for many other things! Each thing is good at its specialty.


Also, standards aren't always helpful or annoying. They're helpful when the improve the situation, make things work better, and make thigs easier. They're annoying when they're unrealistic, don't include things people want or include things no one could care about or use, or when they're unneccesarily complex and time-consuming. Some are more helpful, others more annoying, but most are a mix, IMHO.


Also, I was only offering to fix the PHP Back End for you so no more people's computers crash because of a typo. And you really should fix that bug.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Xeroc

Also, I was only offering to fix the PHP Back End for you so no more people's computers crash because of a typo.

Your MOOM's a typo.

[evay]

Originally Posted by evay

With a site the size of mine, I'd have to be insane not to use some kind of style sheet.

Originally Posted by NAHTMMM

Templates certainly meet that description

and if I wanted to do something new, which doesn't fit into a previously-created template?...

And as far as code complexity, maybe I'm just an amateur, but I fail to see how a font tag/then size tag/then weight tag/then center tag is less cumbersome than saying "class=header."

Originally Posted by NAHTMMM

You are forgetting the powers of Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V!

No, I'm talking about two different things. "Ease of typing" and "code complexity" are not synonymous. I can always paste a bunch of tags, but the browser still has to read and execute each and every one each and every time. If the single command is "class=text," then it goes to one external document and reads one string of code and can cache that. Again, I'm an amateur, but that how I learned it.

Also, when I'm looking at my HTML source to fix problems, it's way easier to have that much less material cluttering up the page. Fewer moving parts and all that.

Originally Posted by Zeke

Not that I'm claiming not to be insane, but you realize I don't use any at 5M yet, right?

But you use php and the tag generator program and all that real code stuff -- you don't generate any pages manually any more, do you? So you may still have the issue of code complexity as I noted, but you aren't pasting or formatting by hand.


Ultimately I agree with Xeroc: If it works for you, and doesn't crash anybody, use whatever you like.

[Nan]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Your MOOM's a typo.

Heheheheheheh. :mrgreen:

[PointyHairedJedi]

Code nerds give me the willies. :shock: