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So I'm in the middle of a SF Debris binge, and the following occurs to me during "Firstborn"...


PNQ: What else could they have done with Alexander?


Far too often Alexander's role is disappointing Worf and refusing to do Klingon stuff. It got old fast. He needed more episodes like "Fistful of Datas".



One thing that comes to mind immediately is how he felt about the Worf/Troi relationship (which I never liked). Or how about him being a role model/mentor for Molly? Did the Roshenkos teach him any Earth sports that he could play with Worf? Baseball doesn't seem like a good fit, but how about rugby or motorcycle racing?


Or what about preparing for Starfleet? Alexander could show that while he doesn't respect Worf's culture, he respects his profession and accomplishments. This would also be a good use for Wesley, turning him into a teacher.
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In watching Obscurus Lupa's review of "Threshold" it occurs to me...


PNQ: Is it really the worst episode of Voyager?


Don't get me wrong, it's bad. Really bad. But the badness is in the premise and complete disregard for logic, not the direction or performances. I'd watch "Threshold" over "Equinox" or "Scorpion" any day.
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The TV Tropes page for "Balance of Terror" says that Kirk's wedding speech is reused for all future weddings in Trek...


PNQ: Is it used anywhere else other than in "Data's Day"?


Was it snuck into Discovery or something?
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The MemAlpha page for weddings has some similar-but-not-identical ones. The only one in nuTrek, not yet mentioned there, is the SNW Season 1 finale -- which was literally an alternate version of "Balance of Terror", a well-intended homage with divisive results (for instance, I loved it, Wowbagger hated it).

[ED: A very similar speech was used in the S3 finale of The Orville, too.]
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Now that the original film snippet of "When Love is Gone" from the Muppet Christmas Carol has been found and restored to the master print...


PNQ: "When Love is Gone"-essential or sappy tripe worth discarding?


I think it's essential for Scrooge's character arc, how about you?
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So I'm watching an SF Debris review and I'm reminded of the fact that they were going to kill Kim and not Kes during "Scorpion."


PNQ: What future plot possibilities do you see if Kes had stayed?


I mean, she would've had to have a kid this time around, but she wasn't with Neelix anymore and Tom was with Torres by now. So who? The odds of finding another lost Ocampan colony out here a la "Homestead" seem remote. My mind wanders to Chakotay, that would be an interesting development. I wonder if someone has written that fanfic yet. There's drama to be milked from Janeway losing a man that she cared for to her "daughter."



How would her relationship with Seven go? It stands to reason that she'd be empathetic to Seven's journey to discover her humanity.



Another possibility is how her new dynamic with Neelix would lead to her trying to smooth out some of Neelix's rough edges. You know, at the start she could see no wrong in him, she was so starstruck that she was blind to his faults. But now that she's matured and they're no longer together, she's able to see all of what he is. And relationship or not, there are few people who could make Neelix change as fast as she could.
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Could someone verify the following TOS example for a TVTropes draft?


"A Running Gag Star Trek, where Bones sneaks Kirk onto the Enterprise by injecting him with an vaccine for a disease, to give him the symptoms. Kirk suffers a reaction to the vaccine, resulting in Bones chasing him around, injecting him with unknown drugs as Kirk tries to save the ship."


Bones would never make anyone sick. The only time I recall Kirk being in command while injured is "Journey to Babel", and Bones was busy with Spock and Sarek at the time, not tending to Kirk.


I'm on thin ice with a few tropers at the moment, and I don't want to make a unilateral edit right now.
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So I'm watching an SF Debris review and I'm reminded of the fact that they were going to kill Kim and not Kes during "Scorpion."


PNQ: What future plot possibilities do you see if Kes had stayed?


I mean, she would've had to have a kid this time around, but she wasn't with Neelix anymore and Tom was with Torres by now. So who? The odds of finding another lost Ocampan colony out here a la "Homestead" seem remote. My mind wanders to Chakotay, that would be an interesting development. I wonder if someone has written that fanfic yet. There's drama to be milked from Janeway losing a man that she cared for to her "daughter."



How would her relationship with Seven go? It stands to reason that she'd be empathetic to Seven's journey to discover her humanity.



Another possibility is how her new dynamic with Neelix would lead to her trying to smooth out some of Neelix's rough edges. You know, at the start she could see no wrong in him, she was so starstruck that she was blind to his faults. But now that she's matured and they're no longer together, she's able to see all of what he is. And relationship or not, there are few people who could make Neelix change as fast as she could.
Interesting ideas, that would be one way to change Neelix's character if the showrunners understood how much people hated him.

I think Chakotay is out of the question. The power and maturity differences are too much. I also can't see him attracted to her that much honestly. Kim would be a match on both counts, but probably a blander relationship to write for.

They could find another Ocampan colony, but the father coming along would mean more money and scenes for yet another character, and a one-and-done romance would be pretty blatantly just to give her a child because they thought she needed one.
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