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10-28-2007, 01:23 AM
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That's nice and all, but in the original (you know, the book, by Douglas Adams) he's pretty depressed.
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10-28-2007, 02:17 AM
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I think that Nate means that the people who designed him didn't mean for him to be depressed, that something went wrong with his personality. Or else they didn't mean for him to be that depressed.
They ought to have taken a look at the size of their complaints department before they attempted anything as tricky as GPP's, though.
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10-28-2007, 03:17 AM
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But the point remains the same: one of his first lines is, indeed, "Oh, God, I'm depressed." Also: Cave of the Fireflies: hideously depressing. Why was that brother so fracking stupid? I always want to smack him upside the head for frustrating me and then making me get about as close to crying as I get at movies nowadays.
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10-28-2007, 12:12 PM
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Yeah, I was wondering whether I was right on that as I typed it. Anyway, it's still made by DA, so it must be right.
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10-28-2007, 06:46 PM
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Yes, originally we see him depressed. But in-universe, he was built to be all happy, just like all the other computers on the Heart of Gold like the doors and Eddie the Shipboard Computer. Thus a few weeks before the first book started when he was built it was anticipated that he'd be happy, thus his body was designed to be used by a happy person. You don't design a robot body to look depressed. It takes body language to do that.
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10-29-2007, 08:25 PM
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That's really only an assumption--although one the BBC-produced drama tended to follow, and so I generally agree with it. But, technically, Marvin was programmed with GPP. ("Can you tell?" he asks early on.) Adams seemed to imply as the main thrust of the humor of the scene that this was exactly what the wizards at Sirius Cybernetics Corporation hoped to acheive: a neurotic, manically depressed robot... just like real people!
So I don't criticize the movie for its choice of design. Did anyone else see the original Marvin in the queue scene on Vogsphere? Did someone already mention that?
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10-29-2007, 11:31 PM
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Of course I saw TV Marvin in the line, incorrect eye colors and all.
Why in the world would you deliberately build a world-weary, depressed android? What could that possibly achieve?
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10-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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*very evil snicker*
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