BattleStar-eyed wonder

[Burt]

Originally Posted by PointyHairedJedi

Sheridan? Hmph. Some people just don't know when to stay dead.

What is it with the dying nowadays, anyway? Sheridan twice. Buffy, at least twice, (Gonna be three in the end) maybe more. Picard's had it a few times. I know some guy in StarGate kicked the bucket more than once (Jackson?) And Captain Scarlet? Just don't ask.
So is dying the new black then?
I prefer the good old days in literature where people didn't just 'die' and come back again willy-nilly.....wait..
Sherlock Homes....
Ok scratch that.

[PointyHairedJedi]

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Duncan Idaho pwns all.

[Chancellor Valium]

Since when was Sherlock Holmes literature? It's badly written - it gets worse as time goes on, in fact - and illogical. Take The Speckled Band - Conan Doyle has Holmes solve the case by knowing more than we do, and by a very contrived last cry from the girl. She could've said something a bit more bloody useful...

As for not dying, I think we perhaps don't value life as greatly any more, and just expect magical escapes.

The good Doctor might have something else to do with it, of course

[Zeke]

Valium, I've officially lost all hope of you and me ever seeing eye to eye on the quality of stuff. There's very little I enjoy more than a Sherlock Holmes story.

[PointyHairedJedi]

Oh, they are immensely entertaining, that's for sure, but hardly of great literary worth. I personally find Agatha Chirstie to be a far keener observer of human nature than Doyle, though Sherlock Holmes undoubtedly remains one of the better characters ever created.

[Burt]

Originally Posted by PointyHairedJedi

Oh, they are immensely entertaining, that's for sure, but hardly of great literary worth. I personally find Agatha Chirstie to be a far keener observer of human nature than Doyle, though Sherlock Holmes undoubtedly remains one of the better characters ever created.

lol, dude you totally beat me to the Agatha Christie point!
Did you know there's a new 'Murder on the Orient Express' coming out with David Suchet playing? Totally excited about that! Been waiting for it for years!

[Burt]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Valium, I've officially lost all hope of you and me ever seeing eye to eye on the quality of stuff. There's very little I enjoy more than a Sherlock Holmes story.

lol. I suppose it was a little harsh, Shelock Holmes isn't known as a classic for nothing....
But I have to say, it's not really my cup of tea. I'm more a Agatha Christie fan. I say 'more-of', I mean totally! I think she's fantastic! I love her stories, I think they're first class. I really love the idea she has of 'Playing Fair' - by giving the reader the clues they need to solve the crime.
To be honest, I think she is one of the best writers in the world ever. And her booksales are not to be taken lightly - 2nd best selling author ever, after Shakespeare (And in my humble opinion - I think he's totally crap! Dull writing and almost no relevence to today's world!) and usually first best selling in a country (i.e. France).
Go Go Christie!

[evay]

Originally Posted by Burt

after Shakespeare (And in my humble opinion - I think he's totally crap! Dull writing and almost no relevence to today's world!)

wow, I'm sorry you feel that way. I find Shakespeare still relevant (MacBeth for politics, Othello for politics and jealousy, Julius Caesar for politics, Romeo and Juliet for headstrong teenage rebellion and the giddy rush of first love, lots of the sonnets can break your heart -- just off the top of my head) and his language sparkles. What did you read, or what kind of teacher did you have, that the Bard came off so poorly to you? You've never seen a single film adaptation of Hamlet you enjoyed? Never watched a single stage performance of any of the plays you liked?

[Burt]

Originally Posted by evay

wow, I'm sorry you feel that way. I find Shakespeare still relevant (MacBeth for politics, Othello for politics and jealousy, Julius Caesar for politics, Romeo and Juliet for headstrong teenage rebellion and the giddy rush of first love, lots of the sonnets can break your heart -- just off the top of my head) and his language sparkles. What did you read, or what kind of teacher did you have, that the Bard came off so poorly to you? You've never seen a single film adaptation of Hamlet you enjoyed? Never watched a single stage performance of any of the plays you liked?

Ok yeah, there are some aspects that are ok. As you say, the love the R&J felt for each other, and the tragic nature of Macbeth.
Macbeth was one that we studied. I found it drawn out, and quite frankly, dull. The same with R&J (R&J? That sounds like a Deptment store...! lol). But my biggest bone is with 'A Midsummer Night's Dream'. I was looking forward to that. A comdey? That will brighten up English class (After essay's on euthanasia and the genocide of World War Two!).
But brighten up?
I have yet to find and humor in the whole thing! Because (I feel) it's no longer relevent to today.... The humor is no longer funny.
But my teacher certainly tried to sell him. She was a fantastic English teacher, though and utterly loved Shakespeare.
I just dislike that so much time is spent in schools studying it. I really think they should open up (Certainly in England) and look at other books/authors. Like I said, I think Agatha Christie is certainly under used. The women is a humor nature genius!

[Burt]

I'm not saying I pushed the reply button twice. There is however, a chance that it happened....

[Chancellor Valium]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Valium, I've officially lost all hope of you and me ever seeing eye to eye on the quality of stuff. There's very little I enjoy more than a Sherlock Holmes story.

Don't get me wrong, I find them entertaining in a similar way to that by which I find the Flash Gordon film entertaining ( "Quick! Check the angular vector of the moon!" ), just not literature in the same way that, say, the aforementioned Christie is.

Oh, and "sentiment sans emotion" is like...well...when you hear of people crying about for example, the death of someone they never knew, never met, probably never even saw in their life, but cry because its...done. Or because they ought to. There's sentiment, but there's little substance.


Oh, and cynicism is fun.

[Zeke]

No, disguises are fun. Cynicism is practical. And I'm all in favour of it, just not all the time. When you find yourself being really cynical about a TV show, it may be a sign that you're taking it too seriously (or too personally).

I'm aware of the irony, by the way. I take BSG and Veronica Mars way the heck too personally. Nobody's perfect.

[PointyHairedJedi]

Apart from the Pope, obviously.