Election 2004: The 5MV District
 

As the start of today's election event, and just for interest's sake, let's pretend the 5MV community is a district in the election. Whom do you vote for? Yes, that means YOU. And YOU. And -- no, not you, you're a convicted felon.

You can post your reasons if you want to, but it's not required. For once, no one will be jumped on for talking politics -- just don't belittle those who disagree with your views, because whatever they are, that will include some forumgoers.

Finally, I hope I don't have to tell you guys not to cheat. Enough of that will be going on in the eTrektion....

(I cast the first vote, and anyone who knows me well enough can guess where it went. I may make a reasons post later.)

Are there really a lot of Americans here? It's great that 5MV is all over the world, but suddenly I feel lonely... :)

I'm not pro-Kerry, but anti-Bush.

Gatac

Surprisingly few, you're right. I've often wondered why 5MV seems more popular in places like Canada and Europe than in the States. The surplus of Canadians is particularly interesting since I've never made a big deal on the site about being Canadian myself.

The poll is open to everybody, though. I hope the phrasing makes that clear enough.

I voted for Kerry in this poll,and I'm about to go vote for him in the real election. (I'm 18 and an American citizen,so nyah-nyah!)

I voted for Kerry absentee several days ago.

So I'm wondering -- if we're a district, what state are we in? Are we more like the District of Columbia then? How many electoral votes do we have? Can we swing the election results one way or another?

:D

We're in Connecticut. Fifth state to join the Union.

I voted for Bush this morning.

Guess my vote and IJD's cancel out. But we knew Florida was going to be a close state anyway. :)

Got it. I read it as "If you were" = "If you used to be," but you actually correctly used the subjunctive, = "Supposing that you were." Excellent. So everyone around the world, read it subjunctively and vote for Kerry--I mean, vote for whoever you think ought to be president. :)

I voted Kerry, I just don't like Bush. That's not so surprising though, I haven't met many Bush supporters here in Alberta.

I did my real voting back in June. Nice to finally back a winner (sorry, wrong election).

Indecision 2004: American Flips A Coin (and then sues the crap out of the results of the coin flip).

For those keeping track, I threw my vote away. The GOP may be trying hard to rig the election through various shenanigans, but the Dems aren't exactly a paragon of virtue (see: trying to get Nader kicked off the ballot in Florida). Those interested might Google Tammany Hall.

From a perspective north of the 49th, the US needs more parties and an impartial system. The electoral machinery is in the hands of the Dems and Reps, and both sides spend most of their time ensuring that it never gets out of their hands.

Just my 1.6 cents worth (woo! The loonie went up!)

I would vote for Zaphod Beeblebrox...apparently he's running:
http://douglasadams.se/zaphod/[/url]

I'm all for voting according to one's conscience. And voting. For the love of god, VOTE.

Like, say, NOT for that creepy eugenics guy.

Good times.

My friend told me to write him in. :P But I don't like what's happend in America the past four years, mainly the war, and gas prices. Let's see if Kerry can do any better. If he can't, Bush can run again in four more years.

Let's see...I exercise the right to not vote.

Nutbunnies. I can't vote anyways. ;)

Wow, this is remarkably apolitical. It's like freeing caged animals. They get scared, and want the cage back :lol:

For me, voting for Kerry was merely a matter of convincing myself that I liked him enough to give the okay. I've spent the last four years or so grumbling about Bush, but when the time came for the Democrats to show an alternative, I wasn't too impressed with Kerry either.

Finally, I decided I'd watch the debates, and if Kerry couldn't convince me that he'd do the job, then I wasn't going to vote.

Now I still don't like Kerry's positions on a few issues (the Iraq War, Gay marriage -- IMO both the candidates suck on these). Kerry's comments on picking supreme court justices during the second debate probably convinced me more than anything.

When one candidate talks about the mark of a good judge being somebody who "by reading their statements, you can't tell whether they're male or female, liberal or conservative, etc.", and the other said more or less that this position didn't make any sense to him, I think the former hits the nail on the head there.

America is way too partisan these days, and it seems to me that Kerry is making the better effort on bringing us back together.

In my opinion of course.

Voted for Bush because he annoys me less than Kerry. Something like that.

Ummm...
-he has some views and isn't an American John Major MP?
-he doesn't pretend that we can pretend that terrorism will go away if we all shut our eyes and put our fingers in our ears and shout "LA LA LA NOT LISTENING!"?
-he doesn't support gay marriage and other crazy stuff and still claim to have morals?
-he at least appears to have some morals?
- he seems to follow his conscience, not vote-winning?
-he's not as annoying?
-he doesn't claim to have the sparkling war record that Kerry tried to make out he had?
-He's not John Kerry?
If this is your ideal candidate, then vote me in!
or try Bush....either works for me.....:D

I voted for Kerry (in 5MV land). I don't think it will actually make much diffrence who wins but I'd like to show bush that "Its just not good enough, dammit!" IMO if you don't vote you lose the right to complain. Complaining is fun. So I vote for the lesser of two evils.

That made no sence, meh I'm sleepy.

I don't know enough about American politics to make a decision, so my vote goes straight to the trash compactor.

One thing I have noticed, though, is that a great number of people are just voting against Bush.

And I think that applies even more so outside of the US - I seem to remember that polls in Europe showed that something like 80% of people would vote for Kerry if they could vote.

That's because people in Europe are so much better at spotting potential dictators...hey,learning from your own history DOES make a difference!

BC is a good example of bad things that happen when you vote against someone rather than for someone else.

Vote Deep Blue for President! :D

Hey, since people are active around here today, why not move this discussion onto mIRC?

I'm headin' there now.

Blah. I can't vote yet. I'm sick of hearing about the elections because I can't vote yet. But, since Oregon will self-destruct otherwise, I'm rooting for Kerry. *waves a little flag*

I've noticed a lot of people arn't voteing for either canadate, insted they are voteing AGAINST the other guy... I'm one of those people. Kerry gives me the Uber-creeps. *shudders* and can anyone say flip flop. :p

I support the presidents decision to go to iraq... but i'm going to vote against giveing the soldgers more armor... and i never said i support the presidents decidion to go to Iraq, but I support the presidents decision to go to Iraq :p

I think Canadian comedian Rick Mercer put it best in a rant against voter apathy when he pointed out that in this sort of situation, it's very important that the lesser of two evils wins.

I'm new to the whole forum thing so i apologize in advance to any stupidity on my part. Sadly, it was politics that finally got me to register.

I voted (in the 5MV district) for Bush, because although I don't trust him I do know how he runs his government. And maybe, just maybe he will get the US out of the place he has gotten them into.

I think so too,applepies, that's why I've changed not my vote, but my support. Go Bush!

I picked Kerry, but I'd rather vote for The Allosaurus

Yes! Another Irregular Webcomic fan!

I voted for the Allosaurus in his poll.

On behalf of everyone in the blue states, I would like to apologize for what the fanatics in what's left of my country have just visited upon the rest of the world. If we thought we could manage it, the blue states would secede and leave the south and midwest to be the Confederacy which they wanted to be 150 years ago.

Zeke, what are the requirements for becoming a Canadian citizen?

Not being rude about HM Queen Elizabeth II, for starters(joking). Also for British citizenship (well, actually you can get in to Britain by carrying explosives, lol...)

Why don't we just trade places? I like your government better, you like my government better, and given how much time we spend online, none of our friends and family will ever know the difference!

^^You think I'm joking. I am really afraid.

Well, that makes two of you -- Tim Lynch has been posting at Peter David's blog to the effect that if America willingly re-elected Bush after the past four years, he'd no longer be comfortable raising his new daughter there. It depresses me to hear you guys talk that way, because you're talking about leaving the country you love for a reason I just don't think is worth it. I understand why you're afraid, but in your place I'd be as afraid under Kerry as under Bush, probably more. We're living in scary times.

I don't have any information about getting Canadian citizenship. It's probably not hard to find on Google, though.

Honestly, I was not at all scared about the prospect of living under Kerry, much as I didn't want him as President. You really can't do all that much damage (or good) in 4 years.

But I just read that Kerry has conceded on CNN, so that eventuality isn't going to happen anyway.

How to become a Canadian citizen (if from the US):

1. Call the Canadian Board of Immigration.
2. Request citizenship.
3. Write easy test.
4. Enjoy your new life.

At least that what my Social text book from 1982 says.

If you move, don't come to Alberta, we have everything bad, except oil. Oh, avoid BC too, crazy social program cuts. From what I've heard Manitoba and Sasketchewan are pretty boring too. There's always Ontario... but then again, Toronto. Quebec is good, do you know any French? You'll like the maritimes, if you like being refered to as "Have Not". How do you feel about the Yukon?

i aint even from america but i care
 

I am from England and I dislike Bush anyway. Kerry should be President over him, hell anyone should be. get those guys out of iraq and start doing things America actually wants! (And didn't your mother ever tell you to not cheat at games.)

Oh, and I was kidding earlier,if you all didn't catch that. I'm praying for an assassination attempt.