Is the first word of the website spelled "5ive?"

I rest my case.

And, yes, if anyone continues to promulgate this silly "5MV" concept, I will have no choice but to resort to drastic measures.

Spelling is not the point. Never was. The glossary says 5MV. It also says that it's not FMV. Not too many loopholes, are there?

I suppose this is sort of a PNQ, but it concerns a reference to one of my fivers, so we might as well open up this thread again. From my Blood Oath fiver:

Kang: Whatever. I wash my hands of you... what's that smell?
Dax: That's soap. You wouldn't have smelled it before.

This is actually a very VERY subtle reference to another movie, placed there with the knowledge that nobody would ever get it. Yes, I'm ever so evil.

Fight Club, maybe? That's the only soap reference that's floating across my mind right now.

Not even remotely. It's a reference to a very fine miniseries called The Magical Legend of the Leprechauns. At one point a group of leprechauns are going to a floating castle by riding inside a soap bubble (leprechauns can't fly, remember?), and one says "What's that smell?" Another says "That's clean. You wouldn't have smelled it before." It's a comment on leprechaun hygeine. This is a reference that I only included for my own sake, and I knew going in that nobody would get it. The habits of Klingons regarding cleanliness just seemed like a great place to indulge myself. Plus, I get the additional joy of implying that Kang may have been "softened" a bit by his interactions with humans by at least learning subconciously to distinguish between dirty smells and clean smells.

In which case, 'very subtle' was indeed something of an understatement.

Very very subtle? Ubersubtle?

Roger Daltrey as the King of the leprechauns? http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...laughing02.gif

No, Colm Meany (yes, that's right, Smiley O'Brien himself) is the king of the leprechauns. Roger Daltrey is the king of the trouping fairies.

Believe it or not... I've seen that movie. And I remember the line, now that you mention it.

(Freak.)

This is from Five-Minute "Azati Prime":

Archer: Oh, gimme a break. You again? What do I have to do this time, go back to the 1960s to stop Gene Roddenberry from shooting JFK?
Daniels: I'm more of a 40s man. But no, we're in the future, so I can explain something to you. I know how much you enjoy saving the future from yourself....
Archer: (nod) I'm a dangerous man.

I *think* there are two references here. "I'm a dangerous man" is obviously a quote. And the "40s man" just sounds like a punchline of some kind. Anyone?

EDIT: Also:

Bouncer of the Underused Characters' Tavern: Welcome back, Mr. Mayweather. Welcome... home.

I know I've heard that elsewhere. Can't remember where.

If it was possible (which it isn't), I'd almost say it was a reference to my fiver for His Way. Remember the discussion about what era Vic comes from? I know that the creators say '60s outright, but I STILL think that the '40s makes more sense.

Nope. I just thought it would be a funny deadpan answer. The running joke about saving the future from himself dates back to the "Shockwave II" blurb; my favourite use was in the <a href="../enterprise/haiku.html">haiku day</a> update.

I'm pretty sure that was a reference to where Daniels would take them next -- World War II.

Entirely possible, but I don't remember a conscious reference there.

Thank you, Zeke. The 40's man makes goodsense, and I confess I don't actually have most ENT fivers memorized after "Cold Front," (Though I do, in fact, or at least did, have most of the ones before "Cold Front" down pat.) so the deadpan thing went right past me.

I would check into the Haiku Day thing, but that makes me laugh so hard I save it for semi-annual bad days.

Ovinoculatron?

He's a crooner. That rules out the 40s, AFAIK. He could be '50s, of course....

Heck, while I'm at it--does anyone here know how to pronounce "Sernaix"?

I believe it's stated as being 1962 Las Vegas, but tail end of the 50s could work, stylistically. Absolutely not the 40s -- nobody sang that way then, never mind the fact that Las Vegas was pretty much nowhere until the Mob started building hotels and casinos there in the late 40s.

"Welcome back, X. Welcome...home.", I think is a DS9 line. I can't remember where from, though it could be "Second Skin". Either that or the one where Odo finds his people.

For some reason, the only two people I can conjour as saying it would be Dukat or the Female Shapeshifter. The more I think about it, the more option 2 seems likely.

@mudshark: Good to know that you know. :p

For me, I suppose, it's the fact that The Rocketeer established there to be gangsters in the fourties. In fact, Vic would feel right at home there, I think.

"Las Vegas was pretty much nowhere until the Mob started building hotels and casinos there in the late 40s."

Exactly! Mobs and casinos!

Vic was based on the Rat Pack, and is played by a junior member of the Rat Pack, in a setting the writers deliberately wrote to be Vegas in the early 60s. I have my DS9 Companion open in front of me right now, and I'm quoting Executive Producer Ira Behr.

It's the 60s. It's only the 60s. It was always the 60s. They specficially say it's the 60s in a few episodes.

Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged: A man can dream, can't he?

I'm not disputing that Word of God states 1962. I'm saying that in my warped judgement, Vic doesn't belong there. So what if I'm wrong, it's a notion I choose to keep.

Just don't expect us to protect you from the raving mobs of scientismists, Nate.

*sigh*

Okay...

1) The Rocketeer was set in the late 1930s (pre-WWII.)
2) It was also set in Los Angeles, where there were indeed gangsters at that time.
3) Las Vegas, which didn't even begin to exist as anything but a remote desert town until well after World War II, doesn't figure in that story, does it?
4) The Las Vegas depicted in DS9 did not exist as such until the time stated -- 1962 -- therefore Vic could not possibly have "felt at home" there at any earlier time, because that there wasn't there yet.

Now... is there anything I might have overlooked?

Apparently this whole "I know I'm wrong, but I'd rather be right" message I'm trying to get across isn't quite getting there. Moving on...

Okay, here's a reference question. What's up with Sybok and the Monkey? (There's a band name. :) Ladies and Gentlemen, it's Sybok and the Monkey!)

That's a PNQ.

More seriously, it's a parody, I think, of his rather overly-easy method of convincing almost everyone to follow him.

Well, it's not Persistant, nor Niggling, really, but I would like an Explanation for this Reference, so there.

Are you sure there's a reference there? Personally, I just took it as a rather quirky joke.

I say "ser-nakes".

On a per-lane.

Coming soon, on the Sci-Fi Channel!

Okay, this isn't quite a PNQ, so I may as well stick it here. From my Looking for Par'Mach in All the Wrong Places fiver:

Worf: Why am I helping you?
Quark: I guess some twisted soul thought playing Pygmalion in reverse was funny.
Worf: They're right. I hate that.

Is this situation actually Pygmalion in reverse? Looking back on it, it almost seems as though a Cyrano joke would be a bit more applicable. Of course, the "twisted soul" part is completely accurate, because I'm the one that chose to five this episode in the first place. :)

Worf: Why is he asking them about premise for a fiver he wrote?


Just noticing that the "all Seasons" menu for DS9 is showing only a header and no actual menu.

I'm asking if I'm applying the joke correctly, or if my brain is just that warped.

If? :p

Cheap shot, PHJ. Understandable, perhaps funny, but still cheap. I demand insults of much higher quality! ;)

I'm a small, small man, I know. :(

You're going to need to provide higher-quality setup lines, in that case. There's nothing worse than a ziing which is out of balance.

Balance in the Force, and all that.


(Midi-whatnow?)

Like being offbalance has ever concerned me.

But to return to my original question. Pygmalion (i.e. the plot that My Fair Lady was "distilled" from (kudos for spotters of the reference)) is the Greek/Roman (is there really a difference, besides names) myth of a guy who fell in love with the woman he sculpted, so the gods gave her life. Is this really what Looking for Par'Mach is all about? There is no "sculpting" here, except possibly Worf molding Quark. I mean, this episode really is sort of Cyrano in reverse, in that it's the handsome guy tutoring the ugly guy (so to speak) in the ways of love.

Not that it's not a good gag, but I like my jokes to make sense on SOME level, even if it's a metally deranged one. This joke is just gibberish. Funny gibberish, granted, but still...

Okay, here's another one. From Five-Minute The Legend of Zelda:

Link: Alright, Ganon. It is down to you, and it is down to me.
Ganon: Yeah, let's see you try to hurt me -- OW!

If that's a setup to a Princess Bride joke, where's the resolution? It sure looks like a Princess Bride reference...

(Yes.)